Hello everybody. The next weblog submit is written by 2024 Hubbard Fellow Claire Morrical. Claire put collectively a improbable collection of interviews with folks working in conservation right here in Nebraska and we thought you’d get pleasure from studying and listening to their tales.
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Yearly, Hubbard Fellows are tasked with finishing a venture to advance TNC’s mission and conservation in Nebraska. That’s it. That’s the rubric. It is a uncommon alternative to discover no matter technique, medium, or concept you need. Previous initiatives included analysis initiatives, plans for a path kiosk, and even a comic book ebook in regards to the Platte River.
My venture originated with a lifelong buddy, an oral historian who interviews folks to protect their experiences and views of the histories they’ve lived by way of. Listening to how priceless these tales had been to understanding the previous made me wish to create my very own assortment of interviews. I initially deliberate to observe extra conventional oral historical past practices, creating an archive of two-hour unedited interviews meant to seize 30 years of expertise of individuals I’d by no means met. After I offered this method to Chris, he requested me, “Who’s your viewers?” Which was a really type manner of claiming, “Who the heck goes to take heed to that?” – I had some refining to do.
The wonderful thing about engaged on one venture for a full 12 months is that it will get to develop organically. As I molded the venture to suit a public viewers, I finally created “Views of the Prairie” – interviews with folks of various ages and experiences, enriched with photographs and maps to floor the tales in place.
Spending the 12 months with this venture was such a pleasure. I loved experimenting with methods to ship context and knowledge. Most of all, I cherished speaking to folks, attending to know them higher, and attempting to see the panorama by way of their eyes. The extra folks I met, the extra I believed, “Man! I actually wish to interview them!” It was so enjoyable to talk with so many individuals, and I hope you’ll get pleasure from chatting with them too!
You’ll be able to discover the complete Story Map by way of this LINK.
On prime of that, every interview shall be revealed on The Prairie Ecologist as its personal weblog submit (Psst, the primary one is slightly below)!
Neil Dankert has been surveying butterflies since 1984, simply 4 years after TNC purchased Niobrara Valley Protect. Neil and I spoke through the 2024 butterfly survey about how a lot may be missed by timing and probability, Neil’s reflections on the 2012 wildfire on the protect, and the significance of sharing data to Neil’s journey.
Interview: July 2nd, 2024

Half 1: Meet Neil
Location: Center Creek at Niobrara Valley Protect
Butterflies talked about: Two-spotted Skipper (Euphyes bimacula), Dion skipper (Euphyes vestris)
These are soundbites from the annual butterfly surveys at Niobrara Valley Protect. Yearly, Lepidopterist Neil Dankert is joined by his associate, Jen, and assisted by Johnathon Nikkila and his son in his seek for butterflies and moths that fill the information of the Lepidopterists Society and Niobrara Valley Protect.
Lepidoptera: a gaggle of bugs that features butterflies and moths
Butterflies talked about: Silvery Checkerspot (Chlosyne nycteis), Gorgone Checkerspot (Chlosyne gorgone)
These of us who hadn’t participated in surveys previously first met Neil the night time earlier than. It was a casual gathering round a mercury vapor gentle, arrange towards a sheet to draw moths. We had been declaring moths and bugs as they swarmed the sheet (and our faces) when Neil joined us, answering questions and figuring out moths. The goal of the night time was the abbreviated underwing (Catocala abbreviatella), a species identifiable by the showy orange on its backside two wings. It was a sight to behold; tons of of moths and flies and bugs that flit by way of the night time.

The following morning, we handed round a few of Neil’s finds, quickly housed in orange tablet jars, till Neil interjected to set the day’s course, main with the announcement that this might be his 40 th 12 months of surveying butterflies at Niobrara Valley Protect.
We first hiked by way of woodlands swatting at extra mosquitos than butterflies. However we caught sight of the occasional Wooden Satyr (Megisto cymela) and Wooden Nymph (Cercyonis pegala). Our second web site was at a prairie on rolling hills the place we chased our major targets for the day: skippers. Skippers are small brown butterflies that Neil’s associate, Jen, describes as trying like paper airplanes. To an untrained eye, skippers usually look nondescript and indistinguishable from one another. So, we introduced them to Neil, like choices in Ziploc baggage, and waited patiently for him to substantiate or deny our guesses and acknowledge that this was an thrilling discover, or simply one other title and tally for the listing.
Butterflies talked about: Least skipper (Ancyloxypha numitor)

Our third web site was Center Creek, which runs to the Niobrara River from the north. Right here, Neil and I let the others do the laborious work of chasing butterflies, whereas Neil invited me to “pull up a tailgate” as we mentioned his 40 years surveying butterflies and moths at Niobrara Valley Protect. Neil wanted no prompting to launch into his story whereas I scurried to report –
Notes For Context:
- Dr. Hal Nagel: A biologist at College of Nebraska Kearney
- Dr. Paul Opler: studied Lepidoptera for over 50 years. He wrote quite a few area guides together with the Peterson Discipline Guides to Butterflies of Japanese and Western North America
- The Lepidoptera Society: A collective of Lepidoptera lovers, scientist and non-scientist, devoted to the research, recordkeeping, and preservation of butterflies and moths
- County File: the primary time a species is recorded in a selected county
You could find a hyperlink to the 1988 butterfly survey HERE. The survey lined seven websites throughout Niobrara Valley Protect. It recorded 24 Brown County information and 42 Keya Paha County information, in addition to 16 species on the fringe of their geographic vary.
Half 2: What Neil Doesn’t See
Location: One of many websites the place Weidermeyer butterflies had been recorded at Niobrara Valley Protect
Neil’s interview was peppered with visits by surveyors, consulting Neil and sharing what they’d discovered with others
Butterflies talked about: Little Glassy Wing (Vernia verna), Northern Damaged Sprint (Polites egeremet), Silvery Checkerspot (Chlosyne nycteis)
Right here’s one of many surveyors –
Butterflies talked about: Orange Sulphur (Colias eurytheme)

Again on matter now.
Neil’s profession started with Niobrara Valley. And with steerage from different scientists and lepidopterists that shepherded Neil into the sector, Neil holds a particular perspective of the Niobrara Valley that spans many years. He’s watched species come and go. Some he depends on seeing each go to, others shock him with their presence or their absence. He’s questioned at what he’s missed within the many years earlier than his arrival that make his 40 years look like a blink of an eye fixed.
Notes for Context:
Learn Neil’s weblog submit about these hybrids HERE.

Neil’s remark raises a query. What species will we miss after we select solely sooner or later out of the 12 months to survey and the way will we account for them?
Possibly this presents a chance for deeper analysis. However within the meantime, the info that we do gather is not any much less significant.
Neil displays on how his expertise and the protect has modified within the years since he started.
40 years of information can inform an extended story. Neil watches modifications on the panorama and the way it impacts his butterflies. He mentions seeing the habitat change because the variety of shrubs on prairies will increase, a difficulty that considerations many grassland conservationists. Annual surveys can assist us to know how this impacts butterflies, by impacting issues like entry to host vegetation. However NVP is 56,000 acres with butterflies lively for a 3rd of the 12 months. And talking with Neil makes me so curious to understand how a lot info exists past our 1-day survey. Who was flying within the far west nook of the protect 2 weeks earlier than we arrived?
Half 3: Hearth on the Ridgetop
Location: The northern ridgetop, the place ponderosa pines and japanese redcedars burned within the 2012 wildfire
Our closing ceremony of the survey is a rely of the entire species we’ve seen, listed off in items scattered between surveyors and websites, and dutifully recorded by Neil. We’ve made our contribution to the listing of 2000+ particular person lepidopterans recorded in Nebraska.
Later, Neil and I proceed our dialogue.
Butterflies Talked about: Two-tailed swallowtail (Pterourus multicaudata), Dusky wing (Erynnis sp.), Yucca Big-Skipper (Megathymus yuccae)

2012 was a drought 12 months in Nebraska, leading to a number of vital wildfires throughout the state. In July 2012, a lightning storm set off one such wildfire in Niobrara Valley Protect. The fireplace burned 74,000 acres, together with 30,000 acres of the Protect. There have been painful losses in the best way of houses and services, however there’s an argument to be made for constructive ecological impacts that the hearth had on the protect. For instance, the hearth burned by way of many japanese pink cedars crowding out grasses and wildflowers on the northern ridge-side. That doesn’t imply there weren’t worries after the hearth.
Hear Amanda Hefner speak in regards to the fireplace in “Amanda Hefner 2: Within the aftermath of the wildfires“.
Neil shares the story from his perspective.
Half 4: A Butterfly Community
Location: One other web site from the unique survey at Niobrara Valley Protect
Neil highlights it right here, however all through our dialogue, his point out of names, advisors, and mentors shines a lightweight on one thing I’ve cherished experiencing in conservation: the interconnectivity of conservation and the significance of shared data. It’s not so essential to recollect the names right here as it’s to know how many individuals relied on and realized from to be the place he’s at present.
Butterflies talked about: Nice Spangled Fritillary (Argynnis cybele), Monarch (Danaus plexippus), Yucca Big-Skipper (Megathymus yuccae), Silvery Checkerspot (Chlosyne nycteis)
This sense of neighborhood extends to Neil’s expertise at Niobrara Valley Protect.

Neil was joined by his spouse Jen, who shared her perspective of the survey and the neighborhood.
With a second of reflection, Neil shares his closing remarks.